This new Ozo skin really does remind me of Infernape. I’d never buy it, but since I have the blueprint, I might as well use it since it’s better than the Winged Ozo skin. That one is basically a recolor of the default skin.
I think the balance team killed phinn hard with the energy , I played him yesterday and I was going to base after each semi fight , usually with that build I can stay in fights with a lot of energy and that’s in 3v3 I don’t know how people going to manage his energy in 5v5 , if you see phinn in the enemy team just play around and make him waste his energy and you going to win , they want clockwork to be main part of his build .
Phin was perfectly fine in 4.1, dunno why they nerfed him at all. He was even not on the strongest side, he was just ok and not picked frequently.
2 Likes
They increased the energy cost for almost everyone to make energy management important, not to just build energy and don’t care anymore.
1 Like
Yes, but at the same time they nerfed a lot of items that gave energy like 
or 
(they gave energy, now only cooldown and no energy) - this way they force few selected items or atleast to have one/two of them to get enough energy regeneration. This is ok? For me energy to be resource needing attention is critical and important, but they should give more potential items buy for energy, atleast t3 ones.
I don’t agree with the changes, but that’s another story, I’m just telling you the reason behind those changes.
I know the reasoning and I agree with it (didn’t like the time when energy was totally of no concern at all on any hero), I just think that they overdo it on some heroes while other doesn’t even have energy… kinda funny, saying how important energy is and then release two new heroes one after another without energy at all. 
2 Likes
And I want to add that after playing phinn and adagio I actually see why they nerfed adagio , it was questionable but after seeing phinn struggle I think if adagio left untouched he would be banned , because he has no energy problem for anyone maining him adding to that long range he would be so strong compared to other roamers struggling mid fights with energy , like right now I prefer adagio over any roam hero .
Adagio was nerfed because his WP path, not due to the energy changes
3 Likes
I hope next patch Reim becomes somewhat useable again.
Dude was alive for a patch until they nerfed him >:((
1 Like
Yeah + with the new move speed a lot of heroes suffers (read: are nerfed this patch), reim is among them and it adds on top of the other nerfs…
1 Like
It’s related to the energy changes even to his wp path , there was a lot of options they could do instead of what they did , I agree on the changes looked more to nerf his wp path but seeing the energy changes to other heroes made his change look more a nerf to his roam path also , his long range is one of the reasons that makes him manage the energy without getting punished , with the range nerf he needs now to plan and manage his energy .
You don’t nerf the empowered attacks (amount of them) to nerf the energy.
They nerfed his range and the empowered attacks to nerf the harassment his WP path could do. Energy has nothing to do here. If they wanted to touch his energy, they would have simply reduce the amount of energy he recharge when dealing damage. Phinn was nerfed because he was top tier, and instead of needing his utility or damage they decided to make him more energy hungry.
Dunno why people feels that his captain patch was not nerfed by a lot… the range was really important for energy restoration and early pressure that was adagio’s “shine moment” or atleast one of the strong match periods. The other numbers changes if he doesn’t build CP are also not helping.
2 Likes
Phin was not top tier in 4.1. Rarely seen in t10 games and most of the time didn’t contribute to his team the same way as other captains would/did.
He was, after Lyra and Yates, the best captain in 4.1
Too bad the heroes stats are not updated for few updates to prove you wrong. Sorry, but in high t10 and silver noone picked him or when someone did it was weakling and that team lost the game. After the removal of the healing contract - he is practice target in mid that can easily be bullied and lead to fed enemy team mid and ahead enemy support. But ok, he was meta. 
Adagio was nerfed in general in all his paths, but energy changes arent the reason for the nerf. They wanted to kill WP Adagio (like they did with WP Ardan), which was impossible to do without nerfing the others.
1 Like