It was me who climbed to vg in 5v5 and poa in 3v3.
Countless match I came across.
Even most of the time I usually play cp lyra or lorelai. Their highest damage is AA with DE. So obviously Lyra/lorelai will dish out as much as AA as they can and Lyra has 12 range.
Sure killing doesn’t mean counter, but still doesn’t change the fact that Lyra or Lorelai are able to AA easily and easily eliminate celeste in late game.
And also it doesn’t matter if celeste is horrible. Cp lorelai playstyle is use to empowered stun to dish as much as damage as possible with fish food that persist and while being stun she dish AA too. Sure celeste counter would galaxy collapse. Imagine if they both stun at the same time, lorelai would quickly recover and imeediately slow celeste or cast her barrier and tries to eliminate her.
Lyra, ult and bulwark. Throw her A to celeste location and AA with DE and eliminate her. Her stun isn’t going to help her in bulwark anyways.
And her A damage is 300+ or maybe 400+ per sec and burst damage is huge too… more than nova…
Yes back then celeste was Lyra’s counter but now she isn’t. Simply because Lyra is damage is stronger and higher in late game.
Or maybe according to you. My enemies team who were playing celeste were prolly lousy.
Or maybe i should climb to silver and then talk about it again?