It’s mostly the motivation to play that SEMC doesn’t bother much with unless they’re trying to look like philanthropists.
The game is cool, but why would I play? Progression and a sense of accomplishment. VG lost that quite a while ago for me, but it’s not the game’s fault tbh. It’s just that I reached T9 after a lot of struggling through T5-8 and saw that people nearly had the same skills here as they did in T5-8. Played with many T10s and they too were only marginally better. That took away the grand picture in my mind of VG being some exponentially increasing skill curve game. It’s a numbers game, your luck factors very heavily into progression.
We can all ask, why we started playing and whether that’s still there, i guess?
I’m making a comparison to popular MOBAs to express that VG is already fast compared to its competitors. If you still find VG slow and boring, perhaps MOBAs are not the genre for you.
Just means you are less experienced with MOBAs, if you don’t know and don’t play the standard MOBAs like LOL and Dota, how do you even judge a moba? VG is trying to push it’s moba to become a moba that’s as intense as those on pc. If you aren’t familiar with LOL, and spend time playing simplified Moba’s such as MLBB and AOV, your comment is not irrelevant ， just less relevant, because you lack the experience and knowledge to judge Moba.
Actually, I feel that they should increase them just a little early game, and decrease them late game. Because early on when you get a kill, the enemy laner is back to the same spot in like 20secs with full health and better items.
Isn’t individual skill much more emphasized early game in 5v5 than 3v3?
First player to take a turret opens up the jungle and more gank opportunities for their team. It’s the start of a snowball and it’s much harder to come back from them in 5v5 than 3v3.
At first glance when you said “it’s all team play” I was expecting you to be sarcastic…
I don’t know how you define fun but the game still rewards individual skills a ton. Of course, with less emphasis on playmaking and more on shot calling and identifying opportunities. But it’s only natural that being 1/5th of a team means you have less impact on the game than being 1/3rd, since the game would be in a rather strange state if things were otherwise.
It’s worse, some games I am 1vs2 and one moments 1vs3 top lane and asking for help via “I need help”, then after no attention for 1.5-2m and two times “I need help”, I try to combine it with rally point, hoping that the sound will take attention… after that green arrow to the jungler that farms calmly and to come, so on. My point is, I was left ALONE 1vs2 and 1vs3(3rd players joined the other two constantly on my lane) losing two turrets without ANYONE showing ONES. This happened recently, but got many examples like that. I blame the no existing matchmaker. I had 3VG bronze in one of the teams vs t5 team. Also a lot of smurfs.
One game I was paired with 2 new players, one t5 and one t6 (I myself am t8 silver-t9 silver) vs 2 t7, 2 VG bronze and one smurf that was atleast poa gold. Did my best, but tbh games like this one is not really fun, not to mention I was targeted as only real damage dealer. /saltmine
Put that aside, 5vs5 is a joy + we must not forget it’s just released and will get a lot better with time. The matchmaker improvement that will follow soon enough will help with the experience too.
The game time right now is too much, but I too think as some others that it will drop when people play some more of the new mode/map.
Totally this, early surrenders on totally winnable games, even some where the surrendering team has the upper hand. To make it worse, even if it’s denied - it’s spammed again as soon as the game allows. 2/3 or more of those game where the mass voting was dismissed (sometimes only from TWO players), we WON. Not to mention that it’s super rare to have a game without atleast one surrender vote. Absurd… hopefully this will be non existing problem, or atleast not at that extend, in the higher tiers when we have a proper match making.
I think (at least, I hope) the surrender issue will improve as people get more familiar with 5v5 and are able to recognize when the match is still winnable.
I love the 5v5 but after that 3 consecutive matches where this happened I was second guessing playing it more. If this is a common thing it will definitely ruin the game.
This is also valid. Killing the enemy laner early in 3vs3 can lead to a lot bigger impact compared to 5vs5. Not to mention that in 3vs3 you get constant help or fast help if needed from your roam while in 5vs5 you kill the enemy and he is back even before the next wave for extra gold for you, have better items and full hp vs your lower one… and in most cases you will be alone vs him. It’s actually literally better to port right after you kill him and shop.
If not, I am sure SEMC will tweak the surrender conditions. Agree, dunno why so many surrenders. Maybe as the games lasts like 50% more on average and people don’t want to bother? Easily tild/saltines making some players wanting to drop the whole game? Dunno… but it’s an issue. Not to mention that more than less when one spam surrender that does not pass, he will afk or stay in base. Few games there where two people doing that.
If anything, in 5vs5 there are more opportunities for a comeback vs 3vs3 in VG… and still, people surrender like no tomorrow.
Also it’s really fun when votes take a big part of your screen while you still try to do something useful for the team and fights enemy players. Fun Fun
Ah yeah, it’s actually still possible to comeback, and they should just delete “surrender” button for 5v5 even i lost all my t3 turret and 2 vain armor we still winning “easily” actually
