Announcing: VG Community Edition

Well, from the community post with the link given by Guest78 above, SEMC (specifically cloaken) stated that this is not an April Fools joke. It appears that most, if not all of their workforce is going into project Spellfire.

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it’s a bit strange that as of now (8 hours after the reddit post) cloaken has only managed to make 2 comments, neither of which answer a question

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I think they will start answering them tomorrow in a vid or ama. Today was just to collect a bunch of questions.

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Our own balance changes?

The queen of death, anka will return.

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I wonder if its possible for someone to edit the code and separate both modes to allow separate balance changes.

Also Niv balancing would be GREAT since he has worked on VG since birth.

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Sorry I haven’t yet been able to respond to this rather unexpected development – it’s not yet as bad where I work as it is in places like New York, much less places like Italy, but we’re seeing our share of COVID patients, and the caseload is stretching our resources already.

Anyway, I have a few thoughts, listed here in random order:

  • the chances of this succeeding are low … as in VERY low … because of the number of moving parts involved: the more complex a system is, the more opportunities for failure exist
  • as @coltonJW and @5230984 point out, they are describing changes to the software architecture that are nothing short of massive; for a company that was unable to fix the in-game chat for months, it seems a bit … ambitious
  • their timeline strikes me as wildly unrealistic: remember, this is a company that continually had trouble delivering routine, scheduled updates on time
  • I’d love to know what sort of infrastructure would be required to host a game server; back in the heyday of VG esports, a tournament server was easily carried by hand, implying that it might be realistic for individuals to run their own servers; however, if the community edition of VG is as intolerant of network latency as every previous version of VG has been, the experience is going to suck, and players will quickly leave
  • we’ll finally get to see how much of a mess the VG code is :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
  • assuming the hardware requirements aren’t crazy, I’d definitely be interested in a VG Forums server
  • I have a lot of legal questions, but perhaps they’ll get answered in the AMA

I’ll try to keep an eye on this thread and jump into the discussion as I’m able, but I may not be able to respond very quickly or often for the next few days.

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:vgfrosty_happy: Me 2

Stay safe.

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Imagine giving up on improving Vainglory for Project Spellfire and that comes out to be trash or something worse, similar to a brawl stars clone? This all community thingy seems nice and sweet on paper but i think the actual implementation is gonna destroy all the good and respect that the game has earned till now. The game is already one foot into the grave rn and the community is all what’s left of this mess.

How would this work, with us being all over the world? I mean I know there’s quite a few forumers in NA, but I’m in EU and I’m fairly sure there’s a few EA/SEA players here too. Would we just have to deal with high ping, or just exclude people not in the most popular place? Have multiple forum servers? I’m genuinely curious as to what we could do.

Let’s get there, because as @hazeleyes said in his great post, this is more like a dream vision vs something they can pull off.

Most likely what will happen is turning off most of the functions of the game to shrink heavily costs, take donation in the form of “first stage organisations support” to keep servers running and after few months when the interest dwell out and thus server costs rise - we will read the final post before shutdown. Not to mention that you can say bye to half the player base instantaneously - now it’s not only MOBA without statistics, but also without even a friend list or party system or anything really. :slight_smile:

I kinda like what Gatorrex is saying. Reverting it back to 2.7 would be kinda neat altho. We would lose some.

I mean come on ppls we all know 2.7 was one of the best patch VG had.

Or maybe reverting would be too extreme but borrow stuff from that patch and try to work on it if possible?

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2.8 was the last good patch, 2.9 is the one with the HP changes iirc.

We don’t know Rogue/Ncore side story and semc is no white knight. SEMC is projecting itself like a messiah/saviour, blaming everything bad indirectly on Rogue and people are actually falling for it lol. It’s clear that Kristian doesn’t want hatred directed towards them at this stage coz they want a good reception of Project Spellfire, whenever that is released. The coming weeks will be full of sweet talks, assuring community of vg’s future and disguising themselves as if they care. It’ll be fun to watch.

What are you basing this on? And what exactly are you accusing them of? Do you believe that SEMC told Rogue to let Nightwalker go also?

What exactly makes you think SEMC is lying about what happened?

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I also fail to see any fault in SEMC here… sure, they can’t devote resources to really support VG + could not find a solid publisher, but they do what they can at this point in time. To say that Kristian does not care for VG would be absurd. Bad decisions and sidesteps - sure, but that game is closest to his heart as it can get + his bigger success for now. Sure sure, they ruined it and took the wrong direction then kept with it stubbornly, but if VG can exist he would love it to.

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Have we received anything about this situation from rogue yet?
Don’t you think it would have been wise to speak up if SEMC is trying to falsely accuse them?

SIS! I AM RIOT OUTSIDE SMEC TILL THEY OVERBUFF LYRA HEAL TO A POINT SHE BECOMES TOXIC. AND I WILL STILL ABUSE HER!!!

AND ALSO BUFF MALENE UNTIL SHE IS UNTOUCHABLE…

THEY HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME. I PROVIDE THEM COINS NOW!.
:3

30 chars

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Bring back lyra’s snare. Increase her healing to 18% lyra’s bonus health.

Huge low cooldown on her ult. Higher AA attack ratio.
And lyra stans will be happy.

Malene Light A, longer root duration. Light B, increase barrier.
Dark B increase invulnarbility duration. Higher dark AA empowerment.

And malene stans will be happy.

Nerf ardan to ground.
Ardan stans will be happy too

And yes vox deserve a huge nerf to oblivion and buff samual.

Lyra is already pretty toxic 30

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