I was going through some old threads, and I came across a recording of (I think) SugarVenom reading Discord’s run of Tony’s lore. In the beginning she talks about how they had been building into the Rise with the lore for many heroes and while I was listening it hit me just how much there was to the lore. Where we left off was RIGHT on the verge of something massive, and it hurts to think that we might not ever get to know what it was.
I don’t think that’s a good way of measuring how important the lore has been to VG, though I’m sure that it’s exactly what SEMC used to justify abandoning it.
I think that the lore has been the thread that wove Vainglory into a cohesive whole: it explained why each of VG’s heroes exist, what the fight is about, etc. – even why the Halcyon Fold looks like it does. Without SugarVenom’s stories, VG’s heroes are going to become more generic. Compare:
Celeste – the daughter of a murdered mage who discovers both her power to command the stars and her destiny as she strives, with her brother at her side, to defeat the army of the Storm Queen, who ordered her family killed.
Celeste – a ranged mage
While probably exaggerated a bit (I’m fairly sure they’ll include some sort of description/“story” of any new heroes), I find it difficult to imagine that we’re going to feel any connection to new characters who don’t fit into the stories that underlie the game.
Nope, the comparison couldn’t be more accurate. That’s exactly how much we know about Anka.
And filling those blanks with generic “bla” for new heroes is not going to cut it, either, as far as those people who cared in the first place are concerned.
I wouldn’t mind if the Lores are gone. Though vivid description don’t appeal to me very much, I hate hero descriptions when it’s generic and dumb (like they are now). You pretty much can say: “he’s a fun and energetic boy who never miss a beat” or “he’s a romantic swordman who’s not discrete about being a fuccboi”. Can we stop with that?
Lore should be able to be read in game (I think that’s why the Lore failed to be popular) and they need to be short so I can read it in a short sitting before my match.
If they decided to shortens the Lore, I hope it will be a fast read (200-300 words max) or just editor cuts of important moments in their Lore, for ex. Celeste’s:
“As she entered the hall, was gloomy and with great pressure, stood and laughing the Storm Queen. The atmosphere, her mother’s death, the queen’s presence and the thrill of another gamble weighted heavy on her consciousness, as she walked towards her deserved throne…bla bla…
The queen is dead…blah…
Destiny was met… dot…dot
It was the Star Queen who, no longer tethered or a victim, risen to power as she shall be victorious. (She also loves peanut butter btw).”
Just include a quote from the original Lore that sums up the hero the best, anything from the horrible, cringy description we have now.
She was absolutely salty, and rightly so. Did you hear how she talked about her world? It seems like the breathed the feckin lore man. Passion like that can’t just be laid off. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was still writing it in her spare time.
Never been one deeply for lore simply because reading in on the website instead of in game annoyed me, including the absence of it in events or the gane in any meaningful way, but @hazeleyes your comment just made me realize how cheapening it is to a committed vg player not to have some kind of explanation in the first place.
I often compare the quality of vg to Overwatch in my mind and it woukd disgust me to see the same thing happen with that game’s new heroes so…yeah.