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Kensei is in a weird spot some people abuse him because a lot of people don’t know how to handle him , like I was playing a 5v5 ranked with t7 teammates and enemy Kensei was killing them and I thought it low tier problem , but hellsdevil in his stream banned Kensei because even high tier players don’t know either .

It took people a lot of time to realize how to fight saw , krul and reim , I hope people understand Kensei strength and how to counter him instead of feeding him and make the game worst .

Kensei can outplay most heroes, basically he only looses against high burst heroes and Skye, apart from those, how would you fight against Kensei?

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Thats just false. He isnt like Krul or Saw whuch you just need to know how to counter them. He is banned because he is strong, a good Kensei can hard carry almost everything given the opportunity. Its not that they dont know how to counter him.

Banned heroes can be banned because they are strong too, otherwise baron would had never been banned.

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I don’t see Kensei banned in streams , I think the way to fight is not 1v1 or 2v1 , you supposed to pick cc heroes and gank him constantly in 5v5 and make the ranged heroes fight him , the problem is people giving him stacks and make him 2 shot the carries , I mentioned saw , krul and reim , because they all abused their power because people lack the knowledge , don’t fight Kensei period , the more he kills people the more stronger he gets because less people going to fight him next , and the most noticeable things of his playstyle is diving the carries and that’s a big opportunity to kill him cc and burst down bye Kensei.

A good Kensei will disengage easily if you gank him, his playstyle is to make split pushing, so you need to stop him, and to do that you need to send someone to kill him, but he can win most 1v1 or even 2v1 duels.

When he engages is not easy to chain CC on him, since he will just attack your front line until your laner is vulnerable. He is not easy to counter thanks to his outplay potential, and saying people don’t know how to fight him is just wrong. There is no a real way of playing against Kensei, I mean, there is not a manual about how to do so like if he were SAW (like you use the AP, then chain CC and blah blah blah, there is nothing similar about Kensei)

The idea is you don’t need frontline , you supposed to keep the distance , if Kensei keep chasing he is going to die , so if the frontline has atlas and pulseweave and wartreads that’s enough to keep the distance and counter Kensei , I don’t see the point of fighting him , just like when I used to play the old reim people fighting me and saving me from dying because I keep getting my fortified health , the same for Kensei you keep giving him barrier and life steal , keep the distance and kill him.

Is harder to keep the distance against Kensei, compared with Reim.

Krul Saw Reim have weaknesses in their kits which makes them easy to counter, Kensei doesn’t have any weaknesses in his kit if anything his kit is broken by design. Kensei is only counterable cause of his weak early game but there isn’t an item or a hero that is considered a direct counter to him.

Try Skye, she works really well agains Kensei… in 1v1, because we all know that Skye in 5v5 sucks.

Skye is okay and she’s pretty good against kensei early to mid game, late game kensei still recks everything

Lategame Skye destroys Kensei, is in midgame when Kensei can beat Skye. At least in 3v3, but I’m talking about a 1v1 situations, so it shouldn’t matter in which map are you playing.

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What are your thoughts on Ylva’s kit mathing up vs Kensei? @VaKTaBi

I’m not saying Ylva beats Kensei, but I feel she’d be a viable pick against him.

She does only good agains Kensei if she can chain her CC with her team, in 1v1 Ylva just lacks of consistent damage, and Kensei can survive her burst, moreover, if Kensei blocks her ult she can’t do anything against him.

If you pick her with a good CC como sure, she is good against Kensei.

Yeah I’ve seen tony and YLVA giving Kensei hard time , I think tony with any burst damage hero can stop Kensei , and because of kensei playstyle when he mess up he runs so a lot of heroes can’t finish him , but I noticed kinetic and Caine are good at that , finishing disengaging enemies .

Like if they buff krul , reim and Rona , Kensei will drop to his assassin role , I don’t like heroes with the ability to hard carry teams , I used to hate Skye but being a meta in 3v3 is protecting the game mode from Kensei .

Krul, Reim and Rona has different uses, you can’t compare them. I don’t know why you hate so much Kensei, one of the few heroes who requieres skill…

Also, Kinetic and Cain fall against Kensei in 1v1, but if they are well protected Kensei can’t engage and kill them.

Iam not hating on Kensei , if they buff these heroes he can’t 1v1 everyone , Iam not saying kinetic and Cain 1v1 , Iam against 1v1 kensei or even 2v1 .

Funny, because the 3v3 meta IS Skye. In that sense I love Baron, so easy to kill Skye :slight_smile:

About rona, reim and krul, even when they are strong, kensei laughs at them late game. The chances of them beating him even 1v1 are -10.

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Kensei was, as BF, designed as a duelist, so he is meant to win most 1v1 duels. Krul can beat him in early, Reim is just weak thanks to the awesome balance Sonata and Zekent did, and Rona still win agains Kensei in early (Rona is an early game hero), so most of them is just knowing your strengths, I, personally, never had problems agains Kensei, I usually harass him in early with almost every hero so…

You are asking for deleting an entire hero designe, some heroes are designed for 1v1 and others for teamfights, what’s the point on playing Kensei if he can’t 1v1?

But he isn’t a “noob stomper”, he is not the kind of hero that is specifically strong against people who don’t know how to fight him. He is just another good late game scaling bot lane like Baron. The difference being that because he is melee he tends to be more snowball oriented, where if he gets ahead in lane he has the ability to run around menacing everyone.

His closest comparison is BF in 3v3, with a very high skill cap, and if played correctly very hard to deal with as he can run away with games. Every hero can be countered, certain heroes however can be “hard countered”. Reim, Krul, and Saw are great examples of this. The thing is Kensei is not one of these cases.

You seem to be defining countering him as putting huge priority on shutting him down and stunning him up in fights… but, that will destroy anyone. If a hero requires that level of focus throughout the game, it means the hero is over powered or at least very strong, and even if you pull that off, it will take pressure away from the rest of the map. Yes you should focus all late game carries early game, but throwing your entire teams draft, early, and late game teamfighting against one hero is not at all feasible or viable.

I don’t really think kensei is op, or needs a crazy level of focus personally. He’s a solid bot lane though, and it’s nice to see a viable melee carry around the rise.

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