Because 3v3 is a broken mess atm. That and because idk about you but my matches are sorta balanced since the matchmaking fix. Usually teammates know how to ‘play properly’ and if they don’t, i don’t mind as I’m still learning the mode myself. Don’t remember the last time I’ve seen an afk.
There’s usually that one odd T6 guy around us PoA-VGs but it’s far better than it used to be
Just as a factual point -every game mode has an MMR - otherwise matches couldn’t be made.
all modes have a match making formula as well which govern how a match is made - 5v5 matchmaking is considerably more complex than 3v3 and was as others noted bugged.
There has since then been continous tweaks and improvements to matchmaking in 5v5 (this is why everyone should rate the match quality this is used as feedback on those tweaks).
Ironically you can tell the matchmaking is improving because assuming you are an above average player your winrate will be coming down - I was at a winrate of 93% while the matchmaker was totally borked - I am now down to a mere %79 and it will no doubt keep dropping.
I’ve been playing as much 5v5 as much as possible hoping to get a good enough handle on the map and 5v5 tactics to be a contributor once ranked hits. I will say, I feel that my experience of the match maker has improved, been getting more quality matches than not. It does seem like there are a lot of connectivity issues with those afks, but it seems like most of those get back into the match and contribute.
I play 5v5 because I’m a bit tired of 3v3, because it has a great visual work, because I can troll without troll at all…
But if you ask me, The sh1t that makes 5v5 annoying is the playerbase, most of my teammates are n00bs.
It’s going to get better when ranked rolls around. MMR will become far more balanced and draft can definitely help balance out those soloq monsters like SAW or Krul. Keep in mind 5v5 is still at it’s infancy in a game that was balanced for 3v3 since release.
Why do “people” play 5v5? Is that the “serious question”?
A: because it’s fun
A: A matchmaker creates matches, or one might say “makes matches”. Being that every experience I’ve had with 5v5 took place in a match made by the MM, I’d say it’s safe to say there is a matchmaker in 5v5.
A: I’m sorry, did you want it to depend only on you? That would be impossible by definition. The issue is this is a team game, and it would seem you would want it to function as a solo game. To further point out the abrudity of this statement, imagine you played a 5v5 basketball game and were frustrated other players held the ball or took shots, like ever.
No answer here, just curious: You do the number crunch on that? You do some research here? You utilize a method for coming to that number?
There is literally hundreds of choices you and your allies make that dictate how the match shapes up. To assert it is all or most RNG is simply, nonsense.
Any data to support this? You looked through all your 5v5 matches and see that? Huge gold and kill discrepancies in most of them? Speaking anecdotally I’ve had tons of close matches and MANY snowballs that got turned around late game. You know that game you had the lead most of the match and then lost? Remember it was anoying? Yeah that’s not a “giant snowball”.
Please, you’re becoming toxic with this, just stop playing bro.
Lastly. When you suggest that this is “serious” and…
You’re kidding yourself. You offer zero in the way of solutions, barely define the problems you’re having and make specific claims without data. It’s ok to write a salt mine post, we all do it, but pleaes don’t suggest it doesn’t belong there when it CLEARLY does.
The mods may not have moved it there yet, but it really should be.
So getting vainglorious enemies with credible threat allies is okay?
I say there is no matchmaker because it just throws together random people who are online atm. The rng is it you got lucky with at least 1 decent ally or not.
I have matches where my highest ally has a 1500 rank versus a vainglorious 2400 and a poa 2000 with me at SA 1800+.
I have lost that match before even starting.
I now have about 40 matches of 5v5 where there maybe were 2 decent matches in total. The rest were horribly onesided.
I see gold differences well over 14k.
Allies with zero kills zero assists and a ton of deaths.
Sure I might sound toxic. But I am far from the only one having such a lousy experience. I hear from multiple people that one moment they have t4 allies and the next they are fighting vainglorious teams…
There is no fun in getting smashed without a chance.
There is no fun in smashing someone who doesn’t even understand how the basics work.
You can whiteknight for semc all you like but the matchmaker seems non-existent!