What I started to do is play something else in the background when on PC lol. Sometimes I was put in a hard position though. AFK most of the draft or lose my for honor duel? I am guaranteed to play my duel unlike finishing my draft so yeah I’ve made my decision.
They are different players, 40 mins for 4 drafts once you find one shouldnt happen. They have to return to when a match gets dodged, those 9 players that didnt dodge get paired again with another player, not like rn that the MM starts from 0, doing so will speed a lot the searching and dodging wouldnt cause as much time lost.
match found, but someone decline or time runs out without accepting
que for 4-5 minutes again
match found, but someone again decline or time runs out
que for 10 more seconds
match found, but someone ffs again won’t accept
que for 2 more minutes
we enter the draft
someone dodge and most of the time in the end, i.e. another 3-4 minutes wasted
back to 1
Side note about the MM:
Not to mention that in like 4 days I was pared with hundor + tetnojj duoqing - THE F… I was waiting for like 10 seconds on that one and was in t9 bronze when happened (dropped from t10b, so still faaaar behind them). Fair MM right there. Someone from the other team realised somehow vs who he is playing and dodged.
Btw, how people realise the enemy team players? The names are hidden, you don’t have access to the chat to see status if they are in your friends list. How in the world people know who they play against? Always wondered.
I won’t forget in the first game I played after the update(in the update day). My team got yates top and that mofo not only didn’t know the hero, but go CP without any actual CP - only AS and BM for dmg, no cooldown at all (full build: AS, BM, SH, HC in kinda a late game). He was useless with no dmg and super long skills cooldown and did a lot less dmg vs me in a captain position without a single dmg item.
On the side note, he said (@Xaldarian) that he likes to play the new hero, not to learn them in ranked. He maybe played quite a few games in casual before jumping in ranked. And we all know how much one will play yates in 5vs5 - he won’t. Either ban or pick/play from someone else. The ban part is 95% of the time.
I understand what you’re saying, but dodging is still a really bad idea. It undermines the matchmaker’s ability to sort people who should lose, and it reinforces attitudes that make upper tiers really toxic.
If someone makes a hero choice that isn’t ideal, then they’ll be at a disadvantage and should risk losing. If you dodge their unskillful choice, you hijack the matchmaker’s ability to properly sort them because of it. You’re also passing along their unskillful choice to the next player, causing more salt in the community (not to mention wasting the time of players trying to get a game in).
There’s also no centralized metric for what a dodge-worthy choice actually is. Maybe you only dodge Roam Celestes. But someone else might dodge Ozo, or SAW, or jungle Churnwalker, because they’ve never seen them work. But if dodging as a solo queue defense is allowed because of your personal interpretations of what works, then you’d get very little games being played.
They’re not necessarly different players you can get away with 2 consecutive dodges if have good karma and 3 if you’re great karma and your punishement will probably be lpq not elo penalty. So yeah it could very well be the same player dodging over and over again
Hmm no i beg to differ alot of people are aware of the current state of dodging so they abuse the shit out of it. At first people were scared cause they thought they would lose 25 elo on their first dodge but not anymore people dodge left right and center
But it’s usually not the same player. Punishing them more just because you face more dodgers is not a reason as they aren’t the same player. Also, as I always say, until they don’t fix the MM dodging shouldn’t be fix… completely.
The matchmaker only works by ranking players based on wins and losses. Every time you dodge a pick that should lose, you make it impossible for the matchmaker to figure out where a player should belong.