Play at 12pm-2pm, queue times around 2mins, got pair with players T7-10, match feel fun and evenly. Then I play at 8pm-12am which is suppose to be peak hours, queue times under 1min, but it always end up pairing me with 1-3 unranked or T4 players and up against trio or full party? This is just show that the MM never try to pair players with similar skill together, it just throw all the players currently in queue and match them up
GGWP SEMC
I am sorry to say that it seems that the matchmaker doesn’t try very hard for a quality match these days. It seems to be tuned to minimize queue times instead.
They should set the MM with 1min limit try to find players with similar skill tier 1st rather than throw everyone that currently in queue instantly, how the match are fun with this broken MM? The new players will always end up getting rage ping or trash talk by veteran players, then they either AFK or just trolling around after it.
I’m pretty sure it DOES work like that – it tries to find players of similar skill first – but the problem is almost certainly that there aren’t enough players with similar skill online and in queue at any given time.
I’m in SEA server and there definitely should’ve enough players during 8pm-12am but i still end up getting newbie in my team almost every match, that 1min time limit only exist in Ranked Match
The size of the player base is unknown – SEMC guards that information very closely. There are some clues that the ACTIVE player base is MUCH smaller than most of us think it is, however:
Although it’s common for high tier players to face the same opponents on a frequent basis, given that there aren’t as many players in those ranks, I’m in the mid tiers – which are the most populous – and even so, I see the same players over and over in my matches. That almost never happened previously, but over the last 3 months, it happens on a regular basis.
Along with other information I’ve seen, it leads me to believe that the size of the player base is the major factor in the poor matchmaking these days.
Ermmm…Steam charts include all server? I tho it track steam users only?
It shows only Steam users, of course. But it’s a shockingly small number of players. SEMC has been implying that VG is ready to compete with other PC MOBAs, so let’s look at DotA 2:
Obviously, the idea that VG is competing with games like DotA 2 is ludicrous.
Some might complain that VG is a niche game, being a cross-platform MOBA that originated on mobile devices. Okay, how about looking at another niche game (in a very different niche, however, but it’s one that appeals to a pretty specialized audience), Kerbal Space Program:
Even the Kerbals have a Steam player base that’s 10x VG’s. (And unlike the KSP audience, VG’s is shrinking – it’s down 40% from launch.)
As I said, these are the only hard numbers we have to look at, and most VG players are NOT on Steam. But I believe they indicate a problem that SEMC has been unable to solve, which is that the player base is becoming too small.
I don’t know why SEMC say a port that still in Alpha stat is ready to compete with other PC MOBA either…But according to Sensortower and other resource I dare to say VG have around 500K MAU, DAU usually are only 1/3 of MAU so it should be around 150K, then this season don’t have Battle Pass and Ranked is still a joke so i would say it have around 50K DAU right now
I mean it’s casual , semc wants more modes with less matchmaking problem , because they already have long queue bad rank matchmaking , I played casual game when petal got buffed and I got destroyed by a well organized team but I actually didn’t care , they are trying hard in a casual game .
It seem like u didn’t understand what I trying to say, what I mean is the match quiality are better when I play at noon(Queue time 2-3mins) compare to playing at night(Peak hours, queue time under 1min)
I rant here because whenever I play at night it always give me 1-3 newbie meanwhile my opponent are trio or full party, the match are always one sided pure rekt. It be like, party up or ready to get rekt?
And you didn’t understand me , playing at peak hours means more party teams , and the matchmaking probably put you with a new players party against good players party , if they don’t find party they put soloq vs party , without banned system gg you lost, all of them going to play strong heroes.
Ya, more party team and yet they don’t meet each other but match against soloQ instead and this is why I say the Causual MM need some rework
-This is just show that the MM never try to pair players with similar skill together, it just throw all the players currently in queue and match them up
-They should set the MM with 1min limit try to find players with similar skill tier 1st rather than throw everyone that currently in queue instantly
-That 1min time limit only exist in Ranked Match
I didn’t hear about the 1 minute limit before , and I got insta match a lot of times in ranked , 3v3 matchmaking queue now takes at least 7 minutes average for me, even if someone doesn’t accept I get the 7 minutes again , I don’t know why it takes another 7 minutes if 5 players already in the queue , like imagine how the casual matchmaking works if this is how a 3v3 matchmaking work .
Casual playerbase are way larger than 3v3 playerbase, 3v3 is almost dead right now.
You just assumed casual player base is big and at the same time you complained about how matches unbalanced , if it’s really big then you shouldn’t have a matchmaking problem , my point of the 3v3 matchmaking is the queue lost 1 player and needed 7 minutes looking for a player to fill or somehow they fill with someone else and kicked me , 1 player .
I played a lot of casual matches when there was only 2 modes , 3v3 casual and ranked , and I got matched with all tiers , I still remember that t10 saw , he was hiding in bushes all the match and running around , I was taking 3v3 casual serious and winning for the glory and rewards that time like cards , I used to collect a lot of legendary cards , matchmaking wasn’t that good but I think players are different , casual right now is for trying banned heroes in ranked , in that time we didn’t have banned system if I remember correctly.
U still don’t get what I trying to say, I got tired of repeating myself this is my last reply
-The match quality are better when I play at noon(Queue time 2-3mins) compare to playing at night(Peak hours, queue time under 1min)
How on earth that the match quality are better when I play at off hours with 2-3mins queue time than playing at peak hours with instant queue? U keep saying that there don’t have enough players but the queue time are faster than when I play at noon, it doesn’t look like it lacking players to me
This is your question:
You just assumed casual player base is big and at the same time you complained about how matches unbalanced
This is my answer:
The match are unbalance because THE CASUAL MM NEVER TRY to pair players with similar skill together
You saying matchmaking not trying and at the same time it try at certain time ?! , I don’t think it’s matchmaking , it could be the quality of players , I played vg in 2 different servers in different times , and I would say players who playing late are sweaty , like same account same tier my games in the late hours are intense while playing in peak hours same tier feels like playing with lower tiers .
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