i have spent years mastering celeste and she is my main. now, these builds may not be viable in competitive play, but if you can master her and use her shortcomings to your advantage, they work amazingly.
her captain build :
frostburn : slow incoming enemies and peel for allies.
fountain of renewal : obvious reasons
war treads : works in tandem with frostburn
clockwork : overdrive core collapse for a sweet aoe stun as well as significantly decreased cooldown
metal jacket : defense against more mobile heroes
last item is situational. i usually use aftershock/ crucible/ echo (two stuns)/ storm crown.
remember, celeste still fragile so do not get too close but also donât be afraid to lead the way with war treads or slow enemies from afar and initiate. core collapse is not a good initiation and itâs very different from other stuns in the game as it is very defensive in nature as opposed to other more initiative stuns. core collapse has a decent lasting stun on overdrive so always max that second. use solar storm to slow enemies from across the map when they are pursuing allies. remember to stay close to allies but also donât be too close to enemies as you are still relatively fragile!
her auto-attack build :
aftershock : amazing dps booster and also allows you to heal in battles and youâll need to in order to survive battles
alternating current : every two auto attacks is 120 % of your crystal power. very critical to this build and works divinely with her perk (75 % crystal ratio per auto attack)
journey boots : also critical to get in and out as well as pursue because youâll be at close range and need to avoid being kited
aegis : critical to avoid crowd control and defense against kiting
metal jacket : also important because youâll be in close range
last item is situational but i usually go with broken myth to counter enemy defense.
i would build aftershock first as it is essential in sustain as well as energy regeneration because with this build your celeste will have somewhat of an energy problem so use your skills conservatively. but, use heliogensis in battle to trigger aftershock as much as possible. it is crucial for dps and life steal. this is absolutely essential to making this build work. celeste has the closest range of all ranged heroes so if youâre not careful you will be poked to death.
if you guys like, i can make this into a guide. these builds (especially the auto attack celeste) are more viable than you might think. trust me iâve had a lot of practise with these builds. itâs not the best for competitive play, but it does totally add many more dimensions to her playstyle and can turn her weaknesses into strengths. theyâre also really fun! feel free to ask any questions! trust me, as iâm sure developers know, celeste is much more flexible than you guys think!
happy celesting!
sadly i have to make this clear for the umpteenth time : THIS BUILD IS FOR EXPERIMENTING AND FUN. IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO BE USED COMPETITIVELY UNLESS YOU HAVE THE COMPETENCE TO DO SO. IâM PUTTING THIS IN LARGE LETTERS BECAUSE IT APPARENTLY ISNâT VERY CLEAR TO CERTAIN PEOPLE.
iâve used celeste for years, dude. trust me if you know what youâre doing, these work really well with her. iâm almost certain they made her auto attacks so close range because the auto attack build would definitely be OP considering how well her crystal power scales with her autos. just give it a try. and again, you need to know what youâre doing!
iâve done auto attack celeste build in ranked and it can work but positioning is key (as is always with celeste). and being a celeste main also means exploring new ways to play her as opposed to always going with the old predictable builds people use with her. be creative!
I could see how her captain build would work well in the right hands - with my argument being that your âcaptain buildâ is more or less derivative of every default/quintessential captain build. Without a very wide range of items to work with to play as a pure utilitarian roam, sticking to the core defense/health/utility is kind of⌠Obvious? I wouldnât go as far to put an Echo on Celeste just for an extra stun.
As for her auto attack build, I donât really know what to say. In theory I could see how it would work, but it being functional isnât equal to it being viable.
They sound like fun builds to play around with but I donât know if Iâd ever use either of them in serious matchmaking!
well, obviously we only have so many items in the game to work with. what youâre not understanding is that the build isnât what makes it work, itâs how you use it. and i didnât say you have to use echo, as i stated itâs optional and situational. if echo works, cool, if not, cool. find another item. thatâs why i said i could make it into a guide because the gameplay is more important than the actual build as well as using her weaknesses as strengths.
sure itâs âobviousâ, but thatâs not my fault. we only have so many items. which is why i highly stress the gameplay. using her stars as wards, as well as a very spammable slow on a low cooldown, core collapse defensively to peel, solar storm to slow and peel across the map, and knowing where to be at what times.
itâs actually pretty viable if youâre good with skill shots.
As for your roam suggestion⌠why would you overdrive her B second? It your main ability surely, you want the stun up as often as possible to peel for your team. Her A second whilst theyâre be little point overdoing her ult since it provides no utlity.
If your doing this in ranked expect me to down vote you. Then again I doubt your doing this in higher tiers because AC on Celeste is (No disrespect) a complete and utter waste. 120% every two basic attacks is never out trading her A going supernova with a SG.
Youâre kidding, right? Did you not read my reply, at all?
Honestly you come off as if youâre not prepared for the critique or criticism thatâll follow posting a build guide. Every person whoâs given you their thoughts on this build in this thread youâve gone straight to the defensive. Itâs a discussion board, weâre meant to have discussions.
Exactly why the auto attack build seems kindaâŚbad?
Youâll be going in almost melee range against something like grumpjaw or Glaive or baptiste and in 5v5 teamfights you wonât be dealing damage from the backline like youâre supposed to, so youâll have to invest heavily into defense to survive for more than 5 seconds, and by doing that you sacrifice a lot of your damage, since you only have AS and AC
mainly because one : almost everyone is saying âitâs not viable, this and thatâ when i already made it a point several times to say, yeah, i know itâs not the most viable build, but is it out of question? with the amount of time iâve spent trying to cultivate this, no. trust me guys iâm not trying to be defensive, itâs just the same point keeps getting brought up when iâve already said, just be creative and open-minded and try it!
funny cause the same people criticising are the same people who never even tried it.
can someone run this build and then come back and criticise? youâre all only speaking hypothetically yet my argument isnât hypothetical. iâve done this many, many times with some success and some loss, but thatâs what you get with off-meta builds.
iâd appreciate it if someone actually played a game with the build (hell you can even PM me and iâll tell you the build order) as opposed to not even trying it and immediately saying âid downvote you, blah blah blahâ and just crapping on me and being negative about it when all iâm doing is trying to contribute to the community
and make celeste more fun and less predictableđ iâm seriously just trying to contribute to the community. just because you only know one way to play a hero doesnât mean other people donât know what theyâre talking about trying to make a hero more versatile, especially in vainglory when versatility is one of the best things about its heroes.
Any build is viable under the right hands it is when the wrong hands (most everyone) gets ahold of it that you see that unless the right person plays it becomes garbage
This forum is kind of built on the foundation of both very hardcore and knowledgeable Vainglory players - while you make off assuming that ânobodyâ has tried this build, there are two things you should consider:
There is a chance that thereâs been a build strikingly similar, if not identical to what youâve posted, at some point that has been used by any of the users, whether it was shared or not.
Their knowledge of Vainglory is enough that, without having to build it, will know how it works.
While I completely support your post in an effort to present us build ideas, and respect your insights for what your build presents, the replies/critiques/criticisms are not without merit. By no means should you be discouraged by users criticising your build, but to shoot us down in response doesnât make for a very enjoyable conversation. To also be so upset with the response doesnât help yourself.
Look at how youâre wording your post. You are acting like none of us have played Vainglory for that long. Itâs actually rather uncouth.
Iâm not going to continue with this conversation any longer. I look forward to seeing more builds in the future and I hope when you present them, youâre more welcome to criticism.
youâre putting words in my post. i never said âno oneâ, i said the people criticising it. i didnât say no one played vainglory nor did i imply it, iâm just saying you donât have enough experience with this particular build to be immediately just saying itâs ânot viableâ. and once again, i know its not that viable, can we move past this theoretical speak and get on to results? and AGAIN, i said âsome success, some lossâ and you can think of so many situations against x hero that counters x build, but what about the situations in which the build works? i blindly went into this off-meta celeste not knowing how to exactly pull it off and not seeing this build anywhere on the forums trying it again and again so that i could eventually post it on the forums and offer a fun, new, and interesting way to play my favourite hero because i wanted to make a contribution to a community i love and then went out of my to make this post and actually have success with a build iâm surprised celeste mains never even thought of. donât i deserve a little more credit? iâm responding to the criticism with criticism because again, iâve done this build a plethora of times and have had surprisingly successful results, for the most part.
and judging by the way most of these responses are (even blatantly saying iâd downvote you), most of the people in this particular thread have never tried it. again, youâre putting words in my post and over generalising when iâm strictly speaking of this thread, not the entire vainglory community.
sad to see you leave the thread but youâre really not offering anything bedsides being close-minded and painting me to look like the bad guy when all i want is someone to actually do the build and then come back and talk good or bad about it am i wrong to ask for that? cause i went out of my way to try this build so many times in so many different situations with several different build paths with years of experience with celeste only to be told you âalready know without tryingâ and itâs pretty laughable tbh to criticise something without even trying it
hopefully i see you around and i hope when âyou presentâ your criticism next time youâre more open to actually playing the game with the build as opposed to being pompous and pretentious acting as if you âalready knowâ what works and what doesnât.
Sheâs never going to be a basic attack hero, youâll be ouranged by the majority of the WP meta all of whom are going to have better attack speed when fully built.
Her strength is range, combined with a spammable A to deal out DMG from distance. Why would you want to close that gap so you can land a 120% CP attack every other attack? If you want to do that go idris heâs far more effectiveâŚ
Ps - I donât need to try it to understand why itâs bad, im a 60% winner with Celeste in mid tier 9.
Her basic attack is great early game for wave clear but itâs useless late game when you can basically spam her As every second. Are you suggesting youâll do more DMG than going supernova on someone with a basic attack?
lol the celeste hero spotlight recommends the AS AC buildâŚ
why would you ever go AA Celeste? You have slow autos with a tiny auto range. Combined with no bulk, that is asking for death. Also, AS AC is pretty much never a good build. AC is used for sustain while AS is for burst, so either you lose out on potential damage in the long run because AS, or in the few seconds you kill them in because AC wonât have activated enough for it to be good.
Roam celeste, on the other hand, is probably really bad, but still has potential with frostburn. The problem is that unlike SAWPort, you have no early game power because you need items, and late game people like lyra are just better
am i wrong to ask for that? cause i went out of my way to try this build so many times in so many different situations with several different build paths with years of experience with celeste only to be told you âalready know without tryingâ and itâs pretty laughable tbh to criticise something without even trying it 
